The words “eight poles” and “taiji” predate Bajiquan and Taijiquan more than two thousand years. The only difference is the words “eight” and “tai”. “Eight” refers to broad, however boundless and has no edge. Therefore, eight-pole boxing has the meaning of “strengthening the outside and reaching the extremes of the eight parties.” The Taiji in the Taijiquan is grand, meaning it can be big, or small with no inside, the word Taiji refers to the broad meaning of the universe.  Both systems are feudal Shaolin of the late Ming era in origin utilized by the same military and security forces. Even today, the arts have inseparable connections with the same genetic similarities. Wu Family Bajiquan has also become synonymous with the highest level of Bajiquan in the late Qing era and has a wide influence in the martial arts community in TIANJIN and BEIJING.  Tianjin and Beijing, the Beiyang New Army connection- Chen Yu’s great-grandfather (Chen Yanxi) was Chen Taijiquan instructor for six years with the Beiyang Commander- Yuan Shikai. BEIJING GONGFU JIA Taijiquan and Bajiquan share the same approach from the Qing and trace back to the same Qi Jiguang manual. They both contain the “unarmed” boxing methods of Qi Jiguang treatise, instead of pure sword and shield (Lao Jia 74).

“Soft and not fragile, strong and not broken” is characteristic of Bajiquan and Beijing Chen Taijiquan.  Due to its fierce boxing and respected practicality, Bajiquan is often cross-trained with feudal Chen Taijiquan in the armed escorts and security sectors during the late Qing and Republic of China era.  This is the primary reason Chen Fake and Chen Zhaokui’s Gongfu Jia Taijiquan is distinct from Chen Village styles of Xin Jia (New Frame) in approach and appearance.

ACT- Bajiquan

Feudal Bajiquan is spear focused with empty-hand tools for armed security, almost identical in approach to Chen Fake’s Xin Jia 83 routine. Taijiquan in the era of Chen Yanxi (Chen Fake’s father) is more similar to Bajiquan in intent and context.

ACT- Bajiquan Qijiguang

Before the 1928 fitness reform in China- there would be a minimal distinction between Bajiquan and Chen Taijiquan.  Both systems were feudal Shaolin strategy of military and bodyguards, utilizing almost identical elbow strikes, takedowns, and capturing methods.  The reform shifted feudal Chen Taijiquan (originally similar to a fighting art such as Bajiquan) and turned it into the Peking Opera-fu Taijiquan, all too common today.


Bajiquan is showcased in THE GRANDMASTER motion picture.


Feudal Shaolin Chen Taijiquan is well preserved in Beijing Gongfu Jia Taijiquan. Chen Yu demonstrates the Bajiquan elbow in Single Whip.


Gongfu Jia Taijiquan shares the fierce short-range strikes of Bajiquan- more efficient for urban self-defense.  The Chen Village Lao Jia Yi Lu is not an unarmed system in origin, but instead the Ming era Sword and Shield routine.  Gongfu Jia is the better empty-hand system.


Bajiquan reels silk as well.  Chen Taijiquan Lao Jia 74 (sword and shield) routine is originally supplemented with empty-hand boxing methods (feudal Bajiquan) in the Ming Dynasty. The weapons ban in China has resulted in such misunderstandings in modern Chen Tai Chi culture.  Unfortunately, lack of proper historical documentation in Tai Chi today has caused many practitioners to learn the hard way in modern combat sports.